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IDK what I'm looking for - a sounding board, practical advice...? I'm struggling mightily w/ depression. I'm unmotivated, feel worthless, ahedonic, & insanely lethargic and fatigued. I've tried meds, & I'm on te best regimen I've ever had (sertraline & olanzapine). I'm in therapy. I sleep well & regularly due to taking melatonin. I eat 95% whole foods w/ little saturated fat, plenty of protein & fruits & vegetables, & plenty of healthy fats. I take a multivitamin. I'm at a healthy weight. I just started 15 minutes of brisk treadmill walking daily & am utterly desperate for the effects of regular exercise to kick in. I'm not very social, but my mood is so bad & I'm so lethargic that I don't feel like socializing. I never feel that I'm doing enough. I tell myself that I'd feel that I'm doing enough if I work efficiently for 40h/wk & do all chores around the house (I live rent-free w/ parents), but who knows; plus, I can never KNOW I'm being as efficient as possible. Sometimes I wish I were religious since so many people find comfort in religion. I WFH, & most days I barely get anything done b/c I feel so low & b/c I get such bad task initiation anxiety. The one thing that gives me dopamine is eating, so I've basically built my life around that. I hate not feeling hungry b/c then I don't have eating to look forward to. My metabolism is also much slower than it used to be, & I'm struggling to come to terms w/ the fact that my TDEE is now around only 1200 cal (small, relatively sedentary woman). But even eating, while I'm doing it, isn't as fun as I'd like it to be. I'm just so sick of feeling inexplicably low & may look into newer, "nontraditional" treatments like ketamine & TMS. I used to walk on a treadmill literally almost all day long for a continuous flow of feel-good workout chemicals, but now I'm too lazy to do that, & my need to do that reveals just how dysregulated my baseline mood is. I hate depression so, so much
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I hear how much you're struggling, and it sounds incredibly difficult to be going through all of this. It takes a lot of strength to keep trying different things and to articulate everything you're experiencing. It's clear you're putting in a tremendous effort to manage your depression, and it's completely understandable to feel desperate for relief when you're doing so much and still feeling so low.

It's really positive that you're already addressing so many foundational aspects of your well-being:
* Medication: You're on what you feel is your best regimen with sertraline and olanzapine.
* Therapy: You're actively engaged in therapy.
* Sleep: You're getting regular and good sleep with the help of melatonin.
* Nutrition: Your diet is focused on whole foods, healthy fats, protein, and produce, and you're taking a multivitamin.
* Weight: You're at a healthy weight.
* Exercise: You've just started daily brisk walking, which is a fantastic step.

Given that you're already doing so much that is generally recommended, and still feeling this way, it makes sense that you're looking into other options and feeling frustrated. Let's explore some of the things you've mentioned and some potential avenues to consider.

It's completely valid to feel frustrated and desperate for relief, especially when you're putting in so much effort across various aspects of your life and still grappling with such profound symptoms. It's a testament to your resilience that you're actively seeking solutions and looking into new possibilities.

Let's break down some of your concerns and explore potential strategies, keeping in mind that these are ideas for you to discuss further with your healthcare providers.

Addressing Your Current Feelings & Challenges

  • "I never feel that I'm doing enough." This is a very common and painful aspect of depression. The feeling of not being productive enough, even when you're struggling just to get through the day, can be relentless. It's important to acknowledge that your brain is actively working against you here. Depression distorts your perception of your efforts and accomplishments. Instead of focusing on "efficiently for 40h/wk & do all chores," which is a very high bar even for someone not experiencing depression, try to shift your focus to small, achievable goals. Even getting out of bed, showering, or walking for 15 minutes is a victory when you're depressed.
  • Task Initiation Anxiety: This is a huge barrier, especially with WFH. Breaking tasks into the absolute smallest possible steps can sometimes help. For example, instead of "start work," it might be "open laptop," then "open email," then "read one email." Even if you don't complete the task, initiating it is a win.
  • Eating as Your Main Dopamine Source: This is a common coping mechanism. While it's understandable to seek pleasure where you can find it, relying solely on eating for dopamine can create other challenges, as you've noted with your metabolism and the enjoyment not being as fulfilling as you'd like.
  • Metabolism & TDEE: It's tough to come to terms with changes in your body, especially when it impacts something you rely on for comfort. It might be helpful to work with a dietitian who has experience with mental health to help you navigate this, ensuring you're getting adequate nutrition while also addressing your emotional relationship with food.
  • "Inexplicably low": This is the cruelest part of depression – feeling this way without a clear external reason, despite doing "everything right." It underscores that depression is a biological illness, not a personal failing.

Exploring "Nontraditional" Treatments

It's completely understandable that you're looking into newer, "nontraditional" treatments given your ongoing struggles. These options are often considered when standard treatments haven't provided sufficient relief.

  • Ketamine/Esketamine:
    • How it works: Ketamine works differently than traditional antidepressants. It's believed to help create new connections between brain cells in areas that regulate mood, essentially "reshaping" the brain and allowing for a shift out of negative thought patterns. Esketamine (Spravato) is a nasal spray derived from ketamine and is FDA-approved for treatment-resistant depression (TRD) and for major depressive disorder with suicidal thoughts or actions.
    • Effectiveness: Studies show that ketamine can have a rapid and robust antidepressant effect, sometimes within hours, with effects that can be sustained with repeated doses. For TRD, a significant percentage of patients experience substantial improvement. One study found that after three infusions of ketamine over 11 days, 52% of participants with severe depression achieved remission, and another 15% responded somewhat.
    • Administration: Esketamine nasal spray is administered in a certified doctor's office or clinic under supervision, usually twice a week for the first month, then with decreasing frequency. Intravenous (IV) ketamine infusions are also used, though these are not FDA-approved for mental health conditions.
    • Side Effects: Transient side effects can include increased blood pressure, dissociation (feeling detached), dizziness, and sedation, which typically resolve within a couple of hours.
  • Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS):
    • How it works: TMS is a non-invasive procedure that uses magnetic fields to stimulate nerve cells in the brain, specifically targeting areas involved in mood regulation. It's thought to affect how the brain is working and ease depression symptoms.
    • Effectiveness: TMS is FDA-approved for major depression and is typically used when other treatments haven't been effective. Many randomized clinical trials have shown daily TMS of the left prefrontal cortex to be effective, with remission rates of 30% to 40%. Response rates can range from 50% to 55%. A newer, intensive form called Stanford Accelerated Intelligent Neuromodulation Therapy (SAINT or Stanford neuromodulation therapy) showed rapid remission in almost 80% of participants with severe depression in one study, with remission typically occurring within days and lasting months.
    • Side Effects: TMS generally has fewer side effects than antidepressants, with common side effects being temporary fatigue and headaches.
  • Vagus Nerve Stimulation (VNS):
    • How it works: VNS involves implanting a pacemaker-like device under the skin in the chest, with a wire connected to the left vagus nerve in the neck. The device sends electrical pulses to the vagus nerve, which in turn sends signals to areas of the brain associated with mood regulation.
    • Effectiveness: VNS is FDA-approved for treatment-resistant depression in adults who haven't improved after trying four or more antidepressant medicines, electroconvulsive therapy, or both. It may take several months of treatment before symptoms start to ease. Some studies suggest that the effects of VNS for depression build over time, and it may improve quality of life and the ability to complete daily tasks.
    • Considerations: VNS is an implanted device, and while surgical complications are rare, it is a surgical procedure.
  • Psilocybin-assisted therapy:
    • How it works: Research suggests that psilocybin, the active ingredient in "magic mushrooms," can foster greater connections between different regions of the brain in depressed individuals, potentially freeing them from patterns of rumination and excessive self-focus. It's administered in a medical setting with supportive psychotherapy.
    • Effectiveness: Studies have shown that psilocybin-assisted therapy can lead to substantial antidepressant effects that may last at least a year for some patients. One meta-analysis found a large effect size in favor of psilocybin for reducing depressive symptoms.
    • Status: While promising, further research is needed to evaluate safety and efficacy and to optimize treatment protocols. It is not currently an FDA-approved treatment outside of clinical trials.

Other Considerations and Strategies

  • Re-evaluating Medication Regimen: Even if you're on the "best regimen you've ever had," it doesn't mean it's the perfect regimen, especially if you're still struggling this much. It might be worth discussing with your psychiatrist whether there are any adjustments that could be made, perhaps trying a different combination or exploring augmentation strategies. The fact that olanzapine is part of your regimen suggests your doctor is already thinking along these lines, as it's often used to augment antidepressants.
  • Inflammation and Depression: You mentioned feeling "inexplicably low." There's growing research on the link between inflammation and depression. Some studies suggest that vagus nerve stimulation might help block inflammation that contributes to depression. Given your healthy diet, you're already doing a lot to combat inflammation, but it could be a topic to discuss with your doctor, perhaps considering specific anti-inflammatory supplements or tests.
  • Mindfulness and Self-Compassion: The feeling of "never doing enough" is a pervasive and destructive thought pattern in depression. While it's hard to break, practicing self-compassion is crucial. Instead of criticizing yourself for what you haven't done, try to acknowledge the immense effort it takes to do anything when you're depressed. Even small steps, like getting out of bed or taking your medication, are significant achievements.
  • Structured Activity and Routine: You're already starting with exercise, which is excellent. Even when motivation is low, having a structured routine, even a very gentle one, can provide a sense of accomplishment and predictability. This could include designated times for work tasks (even if it's just 30 minutes), chores, and your brisk walk.
  • Social Connection (Even Small Doses): While you don't feel like socializing, even minimal, low-pressure social interaction can sometimes make a difference. This could be a quick phone call with a trusted friend or family member, a short text exchange, or even just being in the same room as someone you feel comfortable with, without the pressure to talk extensively.
  • "Dopamine Fasting" / Finding New Dopamine Sources: While eating provides dopamine, it sounds like it's become less satisfying and is contributing to other anxieties. This is a difficult area, but perhaps exploring other small, healthy sources of dopamine could be beneficial, even if they initially feel less potent. This could be listening to a favorite song, looking at art, spending time in nature, or engaging in a very simple, non-demanding hobby for a few minutes. The key is to find things that are truly for you, not tied to productivity or external validation.
  • Considering the "Why": You mentioned wishing you were religious for comfort. This points to a deeper human need for meaning, connection, and perhaps a sense of purpose that can be severely eroded by depression. While religion isn't for everyone, exploring philosophical texts, volunteer work (even something very minimal and remote), or creative expression might tap into similar needs.
  • Advocacy for Yourself: You are your best advocate. Keep communicating openly and honestly with your therapist and psychiatrist about the depth of your struggle and your desire to explore new options. Bring up your research into ketamine, TMS, or other treatments you're curious about.

It's clear you're fighting incredibly hard. This journey is marathon, not a sprint, and it's okay to feel utterly exhausted. The fact that you're seeking help and exploring these options demonstrates incredible strength. Keep taking those small steps, and keep communicating with your medical team.

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